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House discovers how a once child genius has been drugging himself to reduce his IQ.
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Used to abuse DXM as a teenager. Weird drug. Same family, pharmacologically speaking as Ketamine and PCP. NMDA Receptor antagonist. Doesn't exactly make you dumb, just delirious. The show is wrong about one thing though: DXM does not cause brain damage (Olney's Lesions) with or without Ethanol consumption. What it will do, in the doses required for "robotripping" is raise your blood pressure and HR to insane levels. Like 180+ systolic and 150+ BPM in a healthy young male. Then again, it's almost always combined with other drugs such as chlorpheniramine (antihistamine) or pseudoephedrine/phenylephrine. Moral of the story? If you're gonna do drugs, do real drugs
One of the things I find stupid in shows is how they project high iq as high intelligence, being intelligent and being smart are whole lotta different .
“If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself.” -Albert Einstein. Just because they say he is smart doesn't mean the character actually feels smart. He comes off like someone slightly above average who blames being a miserable jerk on his intelligence.
This does not amek much sense, there is no way one could be miserable because if someone is significantly brighter than me who have an IQ Of 133 then one could so much to get more or less anything one would like to
This is a nano particle accelorator, it dertimines the ammount of parsecs travled in a lightyear
Intelligence/intellect are not the same as emotional intelligence,
It fits the plot for house's eventual discovery in the patients illness, but not for the emotional connection between the husband and wife.
Ed: Any equations going on ?
Edit "a fukin gain" hopefully.
Quation ?
I do actually think the rates of mental illnesses like depression, anxiety, etc do actually increase with an increase in IQ. It’s just how people with different IQs see the world
Finally, a patient that can grasp House's intellect since he's a genius too.
If you have high iq you dont akt like that unless you u are a psycho, you just know what everyone thinks why they do what they do, you can even predict what will happen and its fun like hell, and thats easy. Hard part is love, you see "someone" and even 20 years after remember every second, every blink, every smile, even if you just barely able to said hello to her… that is the hard part, every other thing is nothing… and why they love football thats the other mystery 😀
This guy is literally me irl except I’m jacked as well.
I think some people misinterpret this character. he is supposed to be a reflection of House; someone House can relate to.
closer to a gibbon? not hoq iq works. high iq scores diffet very little
Im something of a social genius and it's like torture, I can read minds in complete silence almost, it's like I know the pattern of thought for people and always know what mood they will be in or how they will respond to say a question. it's like torture when you want to read something beautiful but all you get is non-sense even the person that is thinking it doesn't understand it. I sometimes hear birds singing inside peoples empty heads and its scary.
people who complain about how their intelligence is a curse are either a: a fictional depiction of a highly intelligent person from the mind of someone of average intelligence or b: just a person of average intelligence who fell victim to the Dunning Krueger effect.
this "curse of intelligence" bullshit is a way for lazy midwits to explain away their apathy.
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Lmao just because someone isn't as miserable as you… Doesn't mean they aren't smart.
In real life, no woman that looks like Olivia Wilde end up becoming a doctor.
No. Nope. Not right. He is too talketive for someone as intelligent as he pretends 🙂
"I'm sketching a subatomic rick and morty device that measures the jigawatts in each quark gluon plasmid"
Can't be that smart if he can't even understand his own brain well enough to be able to stay objective and use derealizatrion/depersonalization as a strategy to control his own reactiveness (he called her dumb, the semantic associations alone…) … like when he got frustrated at her because she didn't understand this thing that he has specialized his career and learning towards; that just screams unintelligent.
Such a genius yet can't figure out a base form of his idea to explain to laymen.
This is just bad writing at the end of the day, but nobody will even realize this for least another 50 years because of our own societal simplistic perspective on these kinds of folks; people like this are smarter than average, but nowhere near as smart as they and others purport them to be. If he's so smart, why can't he figure out social dynamics and his own emotional intelligence to the point of not being a 2D stereotype of a tortured cynical genius? The kind of intelligence they've written here is flat, like a pony trick, a savant-type power that seems to work for STEM subjects and… nothing else?
I usually wouldnt care, me commenting and writing true-yet-unpopular things usually gets a lot of angry people energized to debate me as if ive called out their own facade of intelligence; the reason I bothered here is that this particular stereotype is not only never questioned in our current set of views but also encourages mildly-above-average intelligente people to be aggressive and rude, which to those even more intelligent than them is ironically a sign of unintelligence..
Early in 2022, I purchased two bottles of Delsym (DXM polistirex, basically just an extended release form of Robitussin.) I was bored, depressed, and I felt lost. I wanted to trip for the sake of having an experience, to learn something, to dissociate, whatever else my almost-19-year-old self was looking for. I said to myself “If I die, then so be it” before downing one of the bottles. It’s almost like I knew I was doing something dangerous and stupid. But it was far more dangerous and even more stupid than I thought.
I was on an antidepressant (SSRI) at the time. I didn’t even think about the interaction that would occur between the two drugs.
Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors, to my understanding, work by limiting the amount of serotonin your brain re-absorbs, meaning more of it can float around and do serotonin things. The problem is, hallucinogenic drugs tend to function by flooding the brain with serotonin. But what happens when your brain is flooded with a major excess of serotonin, while its ability to remove that serotonin is limited?
Serotonin can have toxic (and potentially even lethal) effects in large amounts. This is called serotonin syndrome. 15 hours after dosing, when the effects should have already worn off, I was still super messed up. But I had to go take care of my neighbors’ horses, so I took my SSRI as normal and walked next door. On the way, I noticed I was leaning to the side, heavily off balance. The sunlight was blinding, I could barely see while squinting through one eye. By the time I got to the stable, I collapsed to my knees and vomited. All that was there was clear liquid with some white, foamy stuff. I realized later that this was the contents of the antidepressant I had just taken. My body rejected it.
I finally told my parents what I had done when I found myself shaking and unable to urinate. That was also when I learned that my speech was slurred, and I couldn’t focus my eyes correctly. This was over 20 hours later, long after I should’ve been mostly sober. I thought I had given myself major brain damage. This is where I learned about the interaction the drugs were having in my body. That’s also when I realized that, had I taken the second bottle with the first (which is precisely what I almost did,) I really could have died.
27 hours after I drank a bottle of cough syrup, I could pee again. I didn’t feel like myself, mentally, for weeks. But I certainly learned a lot from the experience. Just not in the magical, spiritual, universe-all-around-me way I was hoping for. I got that later from psilocybin anyway. After getting off the SSRIs, of course.
I don’t think the experience made me “dumber.” I don’t believe I incurred any real brain damage. But it’s one of the stupidest things I’ve ever done.
If you’re going to do drugs, do a drug that’s actually intended to be used for what you’re using it for. You CAN trip on dextromethorphan, but that doesn’t mean you should. DXM is a cough medicine, you take it for coughs.
Since safety is important:
-don’t abuse DXM. It’s trashy and nasty.
-if you’re going to abuse it anyway, BE SURE it doesn’t contain acetaminophen. A full bottle of DXM might not kill you if you aren’t mixing. But a full bottle of DXM that ALSO contains a full bottle’s worth of acetaminophen will probably shut down your liver. That will kill you.
-Just, don’t abuse DXM.
God I love this show, if only I’d seen this episode sooner.
House respected and even enjoyed the punch once he knew there was reasoning and logic behind it.
I can relate to this in so many Ways, you just to Embrace the "Curse", cause if you making yourself Dumb you'll be more Miserable than you ever was.
The colonial dmz responsible your the smartest person your smarter than all in that room (combined)
I had a classmate in college. Brilliant guy very smart guy. He liked to experiment drugs for fun. Went missing for 3 days and found out he died of O.D. at home by himself.
I think im dumb, or maybe just happy.
hes not smart
hes stupid
he can't even find a way to explain complicated stuff and make it simpler for her to understand or hes not trying to do it at all which makes him more stupid because hes very much aware of their difference yet he can't help himself, he cant even change his attitude towards her and he thinks hes smart? academically smart, yes but hes not any smarter than an average person
One of my exes was dumb as bricks. I'm not exactly a genius, but she was just… that dumb. So I kinda get what the patient was dealing with. When there's that much of a difference in intellect things can be frustrating, even if you love them with all your heart.
Me 181, VB 111, Reinga 94, Thea 121, Gigi 131
i guess thats why im happy 🤣🤣🤣
Take it from me…. Being smart does not equal being happy
If Reddit was a character…
as a guy who…is super smart and spent a year "on low" with DXM. I don't feel any dumber now that I am off of it, but I do know what I did was not the right thing, but I do understand why I did it. I don't regret it, but I do. I see it from both sides, and it comes to a sort of grey area for me where, I've looked at myself from the outside in, for so long that I know myself and I know others based on how I watched myself behave, effect of long term dissociation, however I am still very intelligent and I no longer abuse medications. I am slowly moving forward with my treatment process as to instead of dumbing myself down, being more healthy about how I take the world in, I am aware of how miserable and how 'pointless' everything is, but I am also aware of everything positive, the brain just prefers to stick with the negative due to wanting to avoid it in the future. I just need to learn to refocus on the other perspective.
TL:DR I abused DXM like the guy in the video but for a year or two straight, but I am now better and recovered. I don't feel any dumber, although it may take longer or shorter depending on the people involved and in question. Episode really hit home.
I always thought that the idea of having high intelligence and still being miserable is kinda dumb, wouldnt you be smart enough to know and act upon what makes you happy (or in the case of this dude know to better connect with your spouse or leave her if you aint happy with her lmao)
This was when Chase became House
if your smart you figure out a healthy way to be happy
pretty dumb jumping off an 8 floor building into a dumpster trying to off urself
Everyone in the comment section appears to be or know a graceful behemoth of intellect by personal admission.
Thank God I am stupid.
I remember when I first saw this scene randomly at home as a teenager. It hit me like a brick in the face. People underestimate the extent to which intelligence can be a curse, in the sense that you are naturally unable to relate to how the majority of people around you think and live (especially when you are forced to be around them, for example at work). You do not share the enjoyment for any of the activities that they find fun, and they do not share the enjoyment of any of the things that you deem to be fun. Any time you start talking about some kind of abstract intellectual topic which you happen to be interested in, you can physically perceive the emotional and intellectual distance between you and others. All of life feels like being the only sober person at a party. It can cause even more desperation to realise that there is no clear solution to this problem either. Great scene.
So, he runs his life looking for the best ping to play D.O.T.A.
Hmmm sounds like an overdeveloped 12 year old.
I knew someone like this once. I guess happiness is relative. They chose to be a big fish in a small pond full, of ditsy people, as apposed to running up stream with the salmon to see if they could help humankind. I always felt sad that they couldn't be happy just being themself. They had so much to offer the ocean.
Having a high IQ doesen't mean you have more knowledge, you are only capable of processing information in shorter time (which over time … often … results in more knowledge). But it allways gives you the feeling everybody also lives/thinks in slow motion. You are constantly waiting for others to find the same solution you've found "ages" ago. Makes you annoyed, short-tempered, misanthropic etc. And yes, sometimes you even envy the dumb.
i honestly dont even think loneliness is the problem. it wouldn't help if there was other smart people around. just being smart is inherently going to bring suffering. you cant be more aware, and yet be happier. especially not when the universe you are in, is layer after layer of suffering.
you start by being exhilarated at learning, but eventually you become exhilarated at forgetting.
Wow the YouTube algorithm lol I managed to stumble across this video while robo tripping
If you become smart enough, at a certain point, you'll live like a fool.
I can understand why smart people would feel miserable. They would be smart enough to actually comprehend how Bullshit everything is. Not mention frustrated over how others can't understand you. I'm not some genius but I feel like the people around have some sterotypical concept of morality, logic and reasoning, maturity, and other life philosophy and mind-sets that are inherently faulty, impracticle, unjust and stupid. But I can't even share those thoughts because I'm the weird dumb kid. smh.
Well, I am dumb but they are dumber.
Sorry you were having problems with how smart you were compared to her. She isn't really his type.
Average Rick and Morty watcher
"Can you get me some water or juice im thirsty"
literally an IV in the shot